An empty canvas is full.
The artist's job is to be a witness to his time in history.
If you don't have trouble paying the rent, you have trouble doing something else; one needs just a certain amount of trouble.
You begin with the possibilities of the material.
I think a painting is more like the real world if it's made out the real world.
And I think a painting has such a limited life anyway.
I'm sure we don't read old paintings the way they were intended.
A newspaper that you're not reading can be used for anything; and the same people didn't think it was immoral to wrap their garbage in newspaper.
So that ideas of sort of relaxed symmetry have been something for years that I have been concerned with because I think that symmetry is a neutral shape as opposed to a form of design.
Very quickly a painting is turned into a facsimile of itself when one becomes so familiar with with it that one recognizes it without looking at it.
I think maybe chance works better in a situation like music because music exists over a period of time, and you don't maintain constantly the you can't refer back from one area to another area.
There was a whole language that I could never make function for myself in relationship to painting and that was attitudes like tortured, struggle, pain.
The only thing that I could get with chance, and I never was able to use it, was that I would end up with something quite geometric or the spirit that I was interested in, indulging in, was gone.
Well, I like way downtown near the Battery. I lived down there at this time and for, I guess, the following well, this is where I moved to uptown and I've been here for four years and this is 1965.
I did a twenty foot print and John Cage is involved in that because he was the only person I knew in New York who had a car and who would be willing to do this.
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