Nobody is starving on the streets. We've always taken care of them. We take care of our own; we always have. It is not the government's responsibility.
When I first left university, I thought about going into the private sector. But I discovered when I went to interview that I could only have a career in the back office, or doing HR. The attitude was, 'My dear lady, you cannot possibly think about going on the board.'
I think when you get people who are really talented and you take them out of their comfort zone, you get a lot more out of them.
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