When you get fat and lose your hunger. That is when you know the sellout has happened.
All the music I loved as a child, people thought it was junk. People were unaware of the subtext in so many of those records, but if you were a kid, you were just completely tuned in, even though you didn't always say - you wouldn't dare say it was beautiful.
The drummer in my first band was killed in Vietnam. He kind of signed up and joined the marines. Bart Hanes was his name. He was one of those guys that was jokin' all the time, always playin' the clown.
If they had told me I was the janitor and would have to mop up and clean the toilets after the show in order to play, I probably would have done it.